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Poster: Tito&Smokey Date: Nov 20, 2007 9:31am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: PigPen and "Space"

Why does everyone Jerk off over Pigpen.......quite frankly,the guy was a simple(very simple) 3 chord bluesman that held the Grateful Dead back.You can see that guy on any night in any neighborhood bar(unles its Direwolfs0701 neighborhood bar,then you only get Culture Club cover bands)........You can Pretend you love PigPen all you want.But you know you dont.Its like all the idiots that pretended"Space" was cool."Space" was a complete fucking waste of time,NO-ONE liked it,even if they say they did.Just a bunch of noisy gibberish nonsense.Space gets cut on ALL my downloads,as does drums.Space was the time to go to the shitter,maybe look for some pills to come down off the L,and throw Hot Dogs at the spinners in the hallway.Ill tell you something about those spinners,they thought they owned the goddamn hallway,and the wouldnt move out of the fucking way.You better believe they moved when they saw me comming,because they knew i would crack them in their fucking jaw with my forearm if they didnt move after the first "excuse me".All i had to do was do it one time(Oakland 89) and then those fucking freaks knew to steer clear of me. ......................................................................

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Nov 20, 2007 6:58am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Know who I hate? It's not who you think.

Along the same lines, you know who I despise? Mr. Whipple. That smug bastard went around assulting people in markets and squeezing their toilet paper under the thin pretense of getting THEM to stop squeezing the butt hankies. Sicko. And for some unknown reason, people just loved him. I dont get it. If I walked up to a random shopper in my local mega-food mart and started doing unspeakable things to her cottony-soft yet remarkably strong toilet tissue, I'd be locked up, any yet this freak was idolized and revered.

What's that? He what? Died? Oooops. Perhaps I was a bit harsh on him. But at least shoppers no longer have to look over their shoulders, living in constant fear of having their Charmin violated.

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Poster: cream-puff-war Date: Nov 20, 2007 7:10pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Know what I ate? It's not what you think.

Yeah, good call...
there've been a lot of weirdos in America's supermarkets over the years.

Richard Deacon played the lead character "Wallace V. Whipple" in the 1964 Twilight Zone ep., "The Brain Center at Whipple's".

Mr. Whipple in Rod Serling's teleplay is a heartless CEO who lays off almost all of his workers when he completely automates the Whipple factory (manufacturer of household products such as Moist Towelettes, pantiliners and toilet paper.

Dick Wilson played grocer Mr. George Whipple, who told customers, "Please don't squeeze the Charmin!" in more than 500 commercials between 1965 and 1984.

Newer advertisement campaigns for Charmin, beginning in 2000, were named "Call of Nature" and focus on animated dancing bears happily preparing to use Charmin Ultra in the woods, a semi-subtle reference to the expression "Does a bear shit in the woods?"


As the spokesperson for Post Grape Nuts, Euell Gibbons' line, "Ever eat a pine tree?", drew attention to the product from consumers as well as from comedians.

Gibbons made the TV ads until he died on December 29, 1975.

(Rumors spread claiming that rumors were spread saying he had choked on a pinecone).

And everybody remembers "Mrs Olson", the lady who always had comforting words for young married couples while pouring Folgers Coffee in TV commercials.
But that actress, Virginia Christine, also had a memorable role as Hilary St. George, the racially intolerant co-worker of the Katharine Hepburn character in the film Guess Who's Coming to Dinner (1967).

Watch that movie and you won't look at (or think of) Mrs. Olson the same way ever again!

And speaking of groceries we like to "squeeze", Wonder bread is known to several generations of youngsters as being very highly compressible.

Howdy Doody with host Buffalo Bob Smith told young audiences, "Wonder Bread builds strong bodies 8 ways. Look for the red, yellow and blue balloons printed on the wrapper."
By the 1960s Wonder Bread was advertised with the slogan "Helps build strong bodies 12 ways," referring to the number of unidentified added nutrients.

In 1995, the makers of Wonder Bread, Continental Baking was bought by Interstate Bakeries Corporation.

In 2000, a California jury in a racial discrimination suit against Interstate Bakeries Corp. awarded twenty plaintiffs $121 million, the second-largest award in U.S. legal history involving a private company accused of such wrongdoing.

In 2004, Interstate Bakeries declared bankruptcy, putting the future of Wonder Bread in some doubt.


Also, the term "Wonder Bread" is often used to describe stereotypical geeks.

Wonder Bread is also a lesser known symbol of the White Power movement. It's association of "wonder" and goodness with pure whiteness it a symbol of the Aryan nation, though its questionable health value serves as an ironic commentary as a symbol of white power.


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Poster: AshesRising Date: Nov 20, 2007 8:49pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Know what I ate? It's not what you think.

The weirdo riding around in a boat in a toilet should be flushed.

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Poster: estim8edI's Date: Nov 20, 2007 11:51pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Know what I ate? It's not what you think.

and if he was a dead fan that would make him the tiedye-d-bowl.man

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Poster: AshesRising Date: Nov 21, 2007 5:52am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Know what I ate? It's not what you think.

ghost! Perfect; absolutely perfect! I forgot the name of the product. I wonder if he would be a "Spinner?"

Enjoy your day,
--- AshesRising

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Poster: cream-puff-war Date: Apr 23, 2008 1:28am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Mr. Whipple and The Tidy Bowl Man



Nov 19 ET LOS ANGELES - Dick Wilson, the actor and pitchman who played the uptight grocer begging customers "Please, don't squeeze the Charmin," died Monday. He was 91.

The man famous as TV's "Mr. Whipple" died of natural causes at the Motion Picture & Television Fund Hospital in Woodland Hills, said his daughter Melanie Wilson, who is known for her role as a flight attendant on the ABC sitcom "Perfect Strangers."
Over 21 years, Wilson made more than 500 commercials as Mr. George Whipple, a man consumed with keeping bubbly housewives from fondling the soft toilet paper. The punch line of most spots was that Whipple himself was a closeted Charmin-squeezer.
Wilson also played a drunk on several episodes of "Bewitched," as appeared as various characters on "Hogan's Heroes," "The Bob Newhart Show," and Walt Disney productions.
The first of his Charmin commercials aired in 1964 and by the time the campaign ended in 1985, the tag line and Wilson were pop culture touchstones.
"Everybody says, 'Where did they find you?' I say I was never lost. I've been an actor for 55 years," Wilson told the San Francisco Examiner in 1985.
Though Wilson said he initially resisted commercial work, he learned to appreciate its nuance.
"It's the hardest thing to do in the entire acting realm. You've got 24 seconds to introduce yourself, introduce the product, say something nice about it and get off gracefully."
Dennis Legault, Procter & Gamble's Charmin brand manager, said in a statement that Wilson deserves much of the credit for the product's success in the marketplace. He called the Mr. Whipple character "one of the most recognizable faces in the history of American advertising."
After Wilson retired, he continued to do occasional guest appearances for the brand and act on television. He declared himself not impressed with modern cinema.
"The kind of pictures they're making today, I'll stick with toilet paper," he told The Associated Press in 1985.
Procter & Gamble eventually replaced the Whipple ads with cartoon bears, but brought Wilson (as Whipple) back for an encore in 1999. The ad showed Wilson "coming out of retirement" against the advice of his golfing and poker buddies for one more chance to sell Charmin.
"He is part of the culture," his daughter said. "He was still funny to the very end. That's his legacy."
He was born in England in 1916, the son of a vaudeville entertainer and a singer. He moved to Canada as a child, serving in the Canadian Air Force during World War II, and became a U.S. citizen in 1954, he told the AP.
In addition to Melanie, Wilson is survived by his wife, Meg; a son, Stuart; and another daughter, Wendy.

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Poster: cream-puff-war Date: Nov 17, 2007 6:30pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: PigPen and 'Space'

to know him (Pigpen) was to love him - Ron (Pigman) was the coolest, nicest, warmest, most generous member of the Grateful Dead ever.
Period.

I saw him perform live 5 times.

I didn't meet him personally, but several of my closest friends hung out with him.

He was the only Dead member who was outright friendly to them, though Garcia did throw in the occassional quip
...like R. Crumb tends to do -- but it was Rick Griffin who was down right friendly out of all the poster Zap (1st string) comix artists.

Pigpen even gave kids free tix from time to time - the other guys couldn't be bothered with that shit, tho Garcia did give away some free coke backstage one time to a fan (so I've heard) from the huge chunk someone gave him.


Was Pigpen a great singer?

No.

But he had soul.

A bit more than most of the San Francisco hippie muscians of his day, no matter how cool they were.

Runners up might include John Cipollina and to a much lesser extent, Garcia.

But forget about the Airplane guys, all on ego trips after 1966; and the other Quicksilver dudes;

Well, the 2nd Airplane drummer was friendly (Spencer Dryden), and the 1st Airplane drummer Skip was a trip, as in tripped out, but was in moments of clarity, a really nice guy.

The nicest, coolest of all the SF hippie band members was imho Janis Joplin.

It figures she hooked up for a while with Pigpen.


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Poster: rosey842 Date: Nov 17, 2007 9:15pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: PigPen and 'Space'

Thank you for the post & pictures. The first time I logged onto this site for a long time. No wonder I don't do it much anymore. Seems some things don't change, with the bozo's, etc. Pigpen just always seemed like such a genuine soul. Sorry I wasn't there to see him.

The picture of Grace in her prime--wow! No wonder I thought her daughter China was so hot on MTV while growing up. Thanks again.

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Poster: cream-puff-war Date: Nov 17, 2007 9:48pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: PigPen and 'Space'

u bet rosey.

yeah, Grace had the looks. Did China have a show on MTV?

I never sawr it. Awwrr!

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Poster: William Tell Date: Nov 17, 2007 7:25pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: PigPen and 'Space'

I have to agree with you CPW on Airplane personnel, by and large...especially Kantner. What a prick, at times...really on an ego trip it seemed to me.

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Poster: cream-puff-war Date: Nov 17, 2007 7:48pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: PigPen and 'Space'

right WT, about Kantner.

And Balin, not exactly Santa Claus either. Should have retired "Grace"fully years ago.

You know who was really nice at least on stage in the Airplane scene?

Papa John Creach.

That old guy would pick someone out in the audience and play directly to them, while smiling and looking at them right in the eyes.

He did that for me at least once.







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Poster: William Tell Date: Nov 17, 2007 8:19pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: PigPen and 'Space'

Oh yeah! Loved Papa John...saw him a number of times; great old guy. Nice pick of Grace; she really was beautiful.

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Nov 20, 2007 9:49am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: PigPen and 'Space'

Sure this may be one of the most riveting thread ever to grace our humble little forum, but is it good enough to repeatedly be regurgitated? Don't know about you, but I keep being reminded of bile.

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Poster: Tito&Smokey Date: Nov 20, 2007 9:59am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: PigPen and 'Space'

Yeah your right,lets talk about wkrp in Cincinatti in a GD forum.

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Nov 20, 2007 10:23am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: PigPen and 'Space'

Kiss me you fool.

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Poster: rojimmy Date: Nov 20, 2007 7:56am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: PigPen and 'Space'

Is this guy really serious?? Pig was no GOD or anything but as others state he had alot of soul and was a good frontman for the band at the time. Bob could NEVER do Lovelight the justice that 'ol Pig gave it. But even if he did not die most likely he would have not been with the band much longer as the rest of the boys were following a different path. So hitting spinners ? I understand the thing about them being rude (or in most cases just blown outta their minds) and not moving out of the way (I have also encountered that on several occasions) but you sound like a bitter asshole the way you describe your apparent pleasure in this action. Yeah drums and Space are usually FFwd'd on disc or edited out and could be pretty monotonous (again esp on tape,cd) but sometimes at the show they took you off into another world and were just the thing needed at that point of the show. and hey sometimes they DID come in handy FOR that bathroom break or the wander around the halls looking for friends.

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Poster: BryanE Date: Nov 20, 2007 8:58am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: PigPen and 'Space'

Thanks for the three separate revisions. Otherwise we might not have been able to immerse ourselves in the complete beauty of your message.

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Poster: swamprabbit Date: Nov 20, 2007 9:07am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: PigPen and 'Space'

Remember folks. Don't feed the troll! Move along to a more postive post.

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Poster: Tito&Smokey Date: Nov 20, 2007 9:39am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: PigPen and 'Space'

actually,its 4 seperate revisions, to get the post back to the top.Makes you mad huh?

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Nov 20, 2007 7:01am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Know what I love? OK, this might be what you think.

Chinacat>I Know You Rider from Jai Alai Fronton 6/22/74.

What's not to like? Rest of the show doesn't suck much either (the Playin' is pristine mid-70's Dead and many have argued that the GSET is one of the best).

http://www.archive.org/details/gd74-06-22.sbd.obv.30972.flacf

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Poster: snori Date: Nov 20, 2007 11:17am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Know what I love? OK, this might be what you think.

One of the best, but shouldn't there be an ARROW after each section of the 'tune-up suite'?

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Nov 20, 2007 11:19am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Know what I love? OK, this might be what you think.

Lets not get>apos>up>in>arms.

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Poster: snori Date: Nov 20, 2007 11:21am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Know what I love? OK, this might be what you think.

just kidding - no disrespect intended. Back to the music - I couldn't hold on til 12th December to listen this again.
http://www.archive.org/details/gd73-12-04.s1-sbd.miller.30656.sbeok.flacf
Plenty to recommend here.

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Poster: Toadsmoker Date: Nov 20, 2007 10:40am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: PigPen and 'Space'

I see Tito's fondling his favorite snack food again. Next he'll be smoking an Orange Cigar in the Santa Claus line.

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Poster: buffalo69 Date: Nov 20, 2007 4:41pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: PigPen and 'Space'

Hey Toad smoker, you must have seen Tito in the Santa Claus line while you were trolling your local mall looking for your next child to abduct. In fact isn't it true that in 1993 while on Grateful Dead tour in Richfield, Ohio you were arrested and convicted of three counts of indecent exposure, and committing lewd acts with minors?

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Nov 20, 2007 5:05pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: PigPen and 'Space'

omg - the chubby italian prick changed his name

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Poster: buffalo69 Date: Nov 20, 2007 5:51pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: PigPen and 'Space'

Hey man, don't insult my intelligence. This isn't the same person, but I do relish the opportunity to slay you with my verbal skills.

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Nov 20, 2007 6:40pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: PigPen and 'Space'

ok

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Poster: Toadsmoker Date: Nov 20, 2007 5:03pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: PigPen and 'Space'

lol........I no long like the rockies or tinted black rambler cause they lye.

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Poster: saintjames Date: Nov 17, 2007 2:02pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: PigPen and 'Space'

go away

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Nov 17, 2007 1:32pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Do Not Feed The Troll

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll

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Poster: lobster12 Date: Nov 17, 2007 5:40pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Do Not Feed The Troll

I'm actually envious. To think there are folks who have the free time to do this.

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Poster: Tito&Smokey Date: Nov 20, 2007 9:56am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Do Not Feed The Troll

Yeah Lobster,your jealous that someone has the free time to post things,seeing how your a really busy girl.And you dont have the time to post stuff.
Look at this link if you"Have the time"

http://www.archive.org/iathreads/forum-display.php?poster=lobster12

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Poster: lobster12 Date: Nov 20, 2007 10:12am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Do Not Feed The Troll

not one of those posts would fall under "troll". Sorry douche

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Poster: hot multiposter on multiposter action Date: Nov 18, 2007 6:21am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: PigPen and 'Space'

oh. so thats wut you like. control. you couldnt answer becuz that would meen you werent controling the situation. at first i red your posts thinkin you had some valid points. my bad. now i see the reel nacho. you are just tryin to manipulate the people on here for no other reason then control. simple and basic.
what do you win? you cant anger me. i dont care enough to get an emotion for you.

zero to the power of ten still equals nothing at all.

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Poster: rojimmy Date: Nov 20, 2007 7:45am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: PigPen and 'Space'

Is this guy really serious?? Pig was no GOD or anything but as others state he had alot of soul and was a good frontman for the band at the time. Bob could NEVER do Lovelight the justice that 'ol Pig gave it. But even if he did not die most likely he would have not been with the band much longer as the rest of the boys were following a different path. So hitting spinners ? I understand the thing about them being rude (or in most cases just blown outta their minds) and not moving out of the way (I have also encountered that on several occasions) but you sound like a bitter asshole the way you describe your apparent pleasure in this action. Yeah drums and Space are usually FFwd'd on disc or edited out and could be pretty monotonous (again esp on tape,cd) but sometimes at the show they took you off into another world and were just the thing needed at that point of the show. and hey sometimes they DID come in handy FOR that bathroom break or the wander around the halls looking for friends.

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Poster: Tito&Smokey Date: Nov 20, 2007 8:00am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: PigPen and 'Space'

Yeah,your right.....PigPen made a way bigger contribution to the GD than Bob Weir.Idiot........I didnt say the guy sucked.I just said he was an average bluesman that held the GD back.Its a fact.

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Poster: estim8edI's Date: Nov 20, 2007 5:29am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: PigPen and 'Space'

we all agree with you ....now screw

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Poster: hot multiposter on multiposter action Date: Nov 17, 2007 1:54pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: PigPen and 'Space'

you cant answer a question of what you like can you? you dont like anything but spewing out your own vomit. your a worthless fuckin troll.
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